Hauppauge HD-PVR Unboxing & First Look

My Hauppauge HD-PVR 1212 just arrived! 

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With the high interest for this new component recording device I've dropped everything to share with you the unboxing and my first look at the device.  If you would like more background on this exciting device read the HD-PVR FAQ that I put together last week.

I was waiting at the door when Mr. UPS showed up with the box.  Ready to test away!

I have high hopes for this device, but am starting with the understanding that this will likely not be the easiest beast to get to know. I'm expecting some bumps in the road since this thing is really still in its infancy and software compatibility (SageTV, BeyondTV and GBPVR) is still in the early beta stages and even the HD-PVR firmware is still a work in progress - consider the no 5.1 audio at the moment for example.

So with that in mind let's get started.

Unpacking:

Here's a shot of all the goods from the packaging:

I made a quick "unboxing" video of the HD-PVR's first moments at my house:

 

Photos of the unboxed HD-PVR:

The back-top view

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While you can't see it in these photos, there is in fact a blue LED light that can be seen around the top when it's dark and the unit is running.

 

Back

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Front-Right

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Front-Left

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Front-bottom

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What's in the box?

  • HD PVR HD Recorder
  • Remote Control with batteries (not for use with the HD-PVR, but an extra remote for your HTPC) - not sure I totally understand the reasoning here, but it's included regardless
  • IR Blaster transmitter cable
  • Component video & Audio cable set - a fairly long, basic cable
  • USB cable
  • 5v power supply
  • Quickinstall guide

Setup:

Setup as outlined by the quick install guide (see link above) was fairly easy.  I say this with the exception of the included IR blaster - I could not get that thing to work.  I have a request in to Hauppauge on that issue, but I've heard at least one other person having similar problems.  In the meantime I am using an extra USBUIRT I had sitting around (I know, who has an extra one of those that just happens to be in the house!?) and used the USBUIRT to control the cable box.

Driver:

The official driver can be found on the Hauppauge HD-PVR support page

A newer, beta driver can be found at SHSPVR

SageTV and the HD-PVR:

I was able to set things up in SageTV (Note I'm using the latest SageTV Public Beta Version 6.4.3) just by adding a new tuning device in SageTV and telling SageTV that the USBUIRT would be controlling channel changes.  While my server PC isn't up to speed with the recommended playback specs, I was able to record and view HD-PVR recorded content on it albeit not perfect playback.  I recorded several different clips and then went down to try it on my SageTV HD100 extender.  The HD100 handled live TV and recorded playback without a hitch.  Picture quality was very good - at first glance at least it was as good as the video from my HDHR.

Now for the negatives.  I'm still unable to get my client PC to playback any of the video very smoothly so I probably need to work on the playback.  Also, twice during my testing I had to reboot the HD-PVR device (turn off and turn on again) as it seemed to lock-up.  Keep in mind this is very early testing and I could very well have done something to cause the lock-up, but these things along with my IR blaster experience are reminders of how this device is probably best left with the early adopters at the moment until the bugs (firmware, 3rd party software and otherwise) get worked out.  I'll provide more detail after I've used it for more than a few hours.

Read other users SageTV/HD-PVR Experiences

 BeyondTV and HD-PVR:

This wasn't entirely clear to me before this week, but it looks (based on a response from Snapstream) like the latest beta 4.8.2 of BeyondTV does not support the HD-PVR.  You can playback files recorded by the HD-PVR in BTV, but it doesn't recognize the HD-PVR as a tuner device.  Once they're further along in their beta testing, I'll give BTV a try with the HD-PVR

Read more BTV/HD-PVR experiences here

GB-PVR and HD-PVR:

Some GB-PVR users have their HD-PVR up and running.  Several are experiencing issues where the unit stops working and then needs to be rebooted.  This seems to be mostly when using the included channel-changing software provided by Hauppauge.  Read more GB-PVR experiences here

Here's some Sample Clips you can try out on your hardware:

1080i Clip from drama TV show - I recorded this late last night

1080i Clip from Sports News show - I recorded this one late last night also

720p Clips provided by reader "stein"

Additional ESPN clips provided by reader "stein"

If you're wanting to test out your hardware with H.264 try out some of the h.264 samples found at this link.  Note that these are not from the HD-PVR, but will give you a good reference when testing the capabilities of your HTPC.

 

I'll be adding more clips to this page today and also trying it out with a beta version of BeyondTV so check back.

 

I’ll be reviewing the HD-PVR with SageTV after spending some more quality time with it.  My first impressions thus far are that setup looks pretty straightforward, but it's going to take some time and work to get it working with the various HTPC software programs.  SageTV will be selling even more of their HD extenders as they handle output from this device perfectly...

Comments:

Anonymous said...

Does Hauppauge include a tv viewing app or would you need to install one of the 3rd party apps? Looking at the quick install guide one of their programs is for video capture and playback of file only? Doesn't seem like it's also a tv viewing app.

Thanks

stein said...

I'm another early-adopter. I would not consider any of the arcsoft software included to be a television watching app. You can use the video capture program to watch television if you really wanted to, if you were willing to do the channel changing either yourself or through a different program. but that is not its intended purpose.

stein said...

also, I didn't see the beta driver on the support page. Is there a broken link somewhere?

Brent Evans said...

The software included with the HD-PVR is not for live tv viewing, you would need one of the 3rd party apps for that (SageTV, BeyondTV or GB-PVR)


The beta driver can be found at SHS's site ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/wintv-hdpvr/hdpvr-1.0.3.46.rar

stein said...

Thank you, do you know of any specific issues the beta drivers are supposed to address?

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info about live tv viewing.

Tony said...

The drivers on SHS's FTP server are the same version as the ones on the disc that shipped with my unit. So if they're "beta" then Hauppauge shipped "beta" drivers.

In fact, the drivers that are available on the Hauppauge website are also the same version. If you look at the .sys files (both 32 and 64 bit) from all three sources (disc, website and SHS "beta") you'll see that they are all version 1.0.3.45. Oddly, the ones on the Hauppauge website have timestamps exactly one hour later than the other sources, which to me implies that there is a time zone thing going on here (Eastern vs. Central I would guess).

Only worked once for me (capture) and then quit working. I'm going to leave it off overnight and look at it again tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Is the 5V power adapter center positive or negative? My box showed up without an adapter & I'd really like to plug it in...

ChapmanI said...

The obvious point of this device is to record the output of the set top box (cable/satellite/BlueRay or HD-DVD player). If you were wanting to watch live TV, wouldn't it be better to actually watch it on the TV? If you're wanting the PVR type live TV experience, then obviously you'd need PVR type software

stein said...

WAF/SAF dictates that you make the entertainment setup as easy to use as possible. it doesnt really bother me to have 3 or 4 remotes around and to have to change the television inputs and receiver inputs, but my girlfriend only barely has a grasp of it. Setting this up properly would allow the television and receiver to stay on the same input always for watching DVDs, live television, recorded television, netflix on demand, streaming television, youtube, whatever.

simplicity is key.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

I am considering this product for capturing video game footage. I would like to buy a component splitter, and record the gameplay footage from ym xBox 360 into my PC for editing and such later on. This device would be able to handle this, correct? Any response can be sent to RayKinStL@yahoo.com but I will also check back here to see if anyone knows if this set up will work. Thanks!

Brent Evans said...

anonymous,
yes that should work for outputting Xbox360 to your PC. Finding an editing program that can handle the h.264 files can be a challenge, but tpmgenc should be able to do the job.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the reply. I understand what you are saying about the editing program, but can't I just convert it to something like a mp4, mpeg, or avi file and use Sony Vegas? The point behind all this is to allow me to game in HD and still be able to capture, and this is the first capture device with component inputs which will allow me to split my xbox signal, capture, and still game in high def. If I lose some quality from the captured video, that is OK, it doesnt have to be perfect. So you think I will be OK?

Grant said...

I just got the HD PVR working with the latest Beyond TV beta. Just add it as a source. The setup wizard will show an error ("failed to build graph"). Just ignore the error and finish the setup of the HD PVR. Exit the wizard and startup Beyond TV. You'll be able to view LiveTV, record, etc with the HD PVR. Will do more testing this week to see how it holds up.

Brent Evans said...

Thats good news Grant,
Keep me posted - I haven't tried the HD-PVR with BTV yet, but I hope to soon. Looks like SS plans to move on to the 4.9 beta pretty soon since the current one is almost ready for the public.

aaron said...

I've NEW HD PVR information. There appears to be a HW issue with the mass production boards...(versus beta boards ) having to due with power and heat. Hauppauge should have a fix...but some of us may need to ship back our HD PVRs for replacement.
If your HD PVR locks up during capture or preview for no good reason...you may be one of the un-lucky on this 1st run.
Isn;t being an early adopter fun ;)

btw, AC-3 encode ( good for native PS3 and AVCHD compatibility ) is on it's way shortly.

SPDIF...for Dolby Surround Sound Capture is also on it's way...in a few weeks.

Rob T said...

Hi, is there a delay on the pass through?

I'd be recording whilst playing so if there's a delay it'd be a nightmare..

Many thanks

Rob

Anonymous said...

Some of the units have been known to overheat and quit. Mine is one of them. It's a Rev C1 model and is being RMA'd. (Look on the bottom of the unit for the Rev #) The Rev C2 model added a fan

Paul said...

I've been trying to play the sample H.264 .ts files you uploaded but VLC (on Vista) just crashes straight away on both the first two you listed. The Euro1080 file (not from an HD-PVR) from x264.nl which you also linked to works perfectly.

Any ideas what I can do to get files from the HD-PVR to play? I don't want to go and buy an HD-PVR if I am not going to be able to play back its recordings reliably. (But believe me, I *do* want to go and buy an HD-PVR!)

Anonymous said...

Pual, you can use Media Player Classic or the included player (TotalMedia Theatre) to playback the records - and it works just fine.
VLC Media player cannot playback the recordings at this point.

Paul said...

Thanks, but I've just tried Media Player Classic and it switched me to Vista Basic (from Aero) and then froze up after resizing itself to 1080-size. No picture appeared or sound played. A codec problem? This time not even the Euro1080 file worked (although that still works in VLC so it's not some sort of computer-wide problem).

Anonymous said...

I think Media Player Classic defaults to the Overlay Mixer -- this is what causes Aero to shut down. Changing the output device to one of the VMR modes should take care of that.

The HD PVR uses PAFF and MBAFF when recording 1080i material. You will need an h.264 decoder that supports that. CoreAVC Pro has it. Very recent versions of ffdshow have it. Obviously, the software that comes with the HD PVR has it.

Martin said...

I wanted to buy this box but there is one question left in my mind. I downloaded two video clips, espn news and the drama one, and played them on my xp machine. The image quality is superb but both clips have some noise blocks in them. I watched them a couple of times to make sure they are not coming from my computer or decoding problem. They happened every time at the same position. Do you know the source of those noises? Do your other recorded 1080i clips also have it?

Anonymous said...

I am also considering buying this to record gameplay footage from my video game consoles but I have a question. Would I be able to record gameplay footage from my Wii since it only outputs to 480p? I have component cables for the Wii.

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