Answers to Your Hauppauge HD-PVR Questions - Shipping Today

It's official (based on my shipping confirmation e-mail and credit card charges) -  the Hauppauge HD-PVR's are finally shipping with the first 500 or so heading out Hauppauge's doors this week (starting 5/29.) 

UPDATE:  MY HD-PVR HAS ARRIVED AND I'VE POSTED THE HD-PVR UNBOXING AND FIRST LOOK ALONG WITH SEVERAL TEST CLIPS.

The buzz on the HTPC forums continues to build around the Hauppauge HD-PVR - the first consumer-based product for HTPCs to record HD content (encrypted and otherwise) through the "analog hole".  I've been scouring the web, contacting Hauppauge, and corresponding with the leading HTPC software companies to get the scoop on this device.  Now that they are finally shipping (starting today), more and more information will begin to flow out and this is just the start.  I'll share with you as much as I know about this device in a Q&A format.  If I've missed anything you are curious about, let me know in the comments and I'll do my best to answer your question or find out for you.  Remember to check back here for the unboxing/first thoughts post and the detailed review of the HD-PVR.

 

What is the Hauppauge HD-PVR and why you should care?

The Hauppauge HD-PVR (Model 1212) provides a way for Home Theater PC owners to capture true-HD TV content without the need for a cablecard tuner.  You will need a cablebox or satellite box with component video outputs and will need to use the included IR blaster or set up firewire tuning to control the channel changes.  Note that this device can view and time-shift (with the proper software) all content whether it was encrypted or not because it gets it's content from the analog, component output found on most satellite and cable boxes.  Since the analog, component outputs aren't encrypted (and likely can't be) the content is viewable and recordable regardless of what channel.  This is why this workaround is sometimes referred to as the "analog hole" for TV.

Do you need a separate tuner to use it?

No, the Hauppauge HD-PVR doesn't require a tuner to work.  Instead, it handles the encoding of the analog video right.  It's important to note that you can only use one tuner from one cable/satellite box per HD-PVR - even if your box has a dual tuner on it.

How does it connect to your HTPC?

The HD-PVR connects to your PC directly through the USB port.

When will it ship?

The first 500 units are shipping today, May 29th - the next 500 are expected to ship next week (by June 4th) according to Hauppauge sales.  The delay was reportedly due to a delay on a part for the HD-PVRs (rumor has it this was caused by some faulty power supplies which had to be replaced before shipment.)

How much does it cost?

The HD-PVR runs $249.00 plus shipping and is available for purchase at Hauppauge's online store

What resolution?

The HD-PVR will record at HD 1080i resolution, 720p or VGA/D1

What will be the quality of the video output from the HD-PVR?

The HD-PVR takes the analog signal and converts (encodes) it into the H.264 format using an H.264 HD encoder.  This means it will not be the pure digital signal so there will be some loss through the encoding - how much we don't know until we try it.  One postive here is that the H.264 encoding means the resulting file won't take up as much space on your HTPC's hard drive.  For the record, the HD-PVR records at data-rates from 1Mbs to 13.5Mbs, Constant and Variable Bit-Rate.

Will the HD-PVR record Dolby Digital 5.1?

Initially, the software will only support PCM stereo (2.0), but DD 5.1 should become available in a software update to the HD-PVR - supposedly within the next 4 weeks per Hauppauge.

I already have HTPC software, which ones will support this device and when?

On the ship date, the HD-PVR will support the included Arcsoft & Hauppauge software of course, but for the 3rd party HTPC products here's a summary [NOTE: any that currently support the HD-PVR are in beta's so there could be some bugs initially]:

    • SageTV - CONFIRMED TO BE SUPPORTED - "We hope to provide support as soon as the HD-PVR ships" Mike Machado at SageTV.  The Windows version of SageTV (beta version) includes tentative support for the HD-PVR.
    • BeyondTV - PLANS TO BE SUPPORTED - It's being tested in private beta.  Per Rakesh Agrawal at Snapstream: "Don't know when we'll have a release with HD PVR support, but all indications are that we will support it. Hauppauge still has some final driver work to do, by my account, so until then it's not possible to say with 100% certainty."  The most recent beta version of BeyondTV should work for the device although only in a very tentative beta stage.
    • GB-PVR - already supported in latest beta 03/09/2008
    • Vista Media Center - not yet supported.  Hauppauge is hoping for support later in 2008
    • Media Portal - not yet supported
    • Meedios - not yet supported
    • Front Row - not yet supported
    • MythTV - Will not be supported at release date according to an e-mail from Hauppauge, but there are many working on support already.  There is a MythTV HD-PVR Wiki Available Here
    • Snapstream Enterprise - Unknown at this time whether the HD-PVR will be supported

Will the SageTV's HD100 Extender be able to handle playback from the HD-PVR?

SageTV's HD extender (read review here) handles the HD-PVR test video/audio file as well as anything I've seen.  No messing with codecs or anything - it just works perfectly. NOTE: Must use the latest SageTV beta and HD Extender firmware.

So it comes with its own software?

Although most of us will be using our favorite HTPC software (see above) It does come packaged with the following software:

    • Arcsoft "TotalMediaExtreme" software for video capture, preview, playback and authoring/burning your recordings onto Blu-ray DVD compatible disc
    • Arcsoft “TotalMedia Theater”, a video player so you can play back your TV recordings to your PC screen
    • Arcsoft “MediaConverter, to convert your HD recordings onto other formats
    • Hauppauge's WinTV scheduler for scheduled TV recordings

Will it work with my existing computer?  What are the recommended minimum requirements?

High Definition H.264 playback requires a stout processor and a good decoder for successful playback.  Hauppauge recommend the following as minimum specs for the HD-PVR:

    • Processor: Dual Core CPU!
    • Graphics with 256 MB memory or greater
    • Sound card

The exception to this would be the SageTV HD100 Extender which handles HD-PVR output with no problems.

Besides using this thing as a way to time-shift and record HD content, what else will it be useful for?

One use will be to burn your TV recordings onto a standard DVD disk (up to 2 hours of video at 5MBits/sec) and playback on Blu-ray DVD players.  Another use might be to record HD output from a video game console for instance.  Obviously the main intended use for this thing will be to give HD recording capability for HTPCs regardless of the channel.

Since the HD-PVR requires you have a cable box or satellite box, how will it change the channels?

Included with the HD-PVR is Hauppauge's own IR Blaster which can be used to change the TV channels in your set top box.  The box has an IR receiver as well.  One alternative method for changing the channels might be using the firewire port of some (not all boxes allow this) cable/satellite boxes if you have the time and know-how to set this up.

How much room will this HD-PVR take up?  Is it heavy?

The HD-PVR is 19.8cm wide x 17.3 cm deep x 7 cm high.  It weighs 1lb, 3oz

Some recent photos of the HD-PVR show blue, LED lights around the top of the unit.  Will there be these types of LED lights on the post-production units?

Yes, the pre-production units had blue, LED lights on the top of the unit and the final version of the case seems to have the LED's as well.  I'll confirm as soon as mine arrives :)

What inputs and outputs will the HD-PVR have?

On the front there will be S-Video In, Composite Video In, Audio In.  On the back will be Audio In/Out, Component Video In, Component Video Loop Out, Optical audio in, Optical audio out, USB and IR Blaster out

How many Hauppauge HD-PVRs can be used with a single PC?

The HD-PVR comes with drivers that do support multiple tuners, but testing by them has been done with only one at a time.  Support for multiple tuners will depend on the HTPC software you are using so we'll have to wait and see what SageTV, BeyondTV and others are supporting before we know the answer to this.  If you do use multiple HD-PVR's you should note that it will require you have one cable/satellite box per HD-PVR and you will need a way to change channels for multiple devices (i.e. IR blaster).

If you ordered two or three units, but have only been charged for one.  What's up with that?

Hauppauge Sales has confirmed that they are shipping one unit per order for the moment - I'm assuming the additional ones would ship in the next group.

Will it be available in Europe?

Hauppauge has plans for an HD-PVR model for Europe, but no ETA at the moment.

Where can I find photos of the board used in these HD-PVRs?

Photo of the board can be found at the Snapstream Blog

Where can I find the latest drivers, accessory programs, manuals and other official information on the HD-PVR?

Check out the Hauppauge HD-PVR Support Page.   Already up is a quick-start guide, the driver and a few programs that come with the HD-PVR

Where can I find a review of the HD-PVR?

Subscribe to this blog and check back soon.  As soon as it arrives I'll be doing an unboxing/first thoughts post and then a more detailed review using SageTV as well as BeyondTV HTPC software.

Comments:

Patrick D said...

Great news that they're finally shipping. The biggest question is the quality of the video. Followed by how large the file is for say 1 hour of recording? The MythTV community is waiting to pounce on these once the Linux driver is confirmed to be working. I'll probably purchased at least one. Nice to know I'll be able to rip my 12 HD-DVD movies before the player gives up the ghost.

Anonymous said...

Optical audio input kinda sucks, mine satellite box has coax digital audio connector only. This may be the case with many set top and satellite boxes out there. How am I going to record 5.1 sound once they enable it?

Anonymous said...

It would be great if you could upload small sample of 720p recording so we can access the quality and see how our HTPCs will handle playback...

stein said...

I got this from AVS forum, it should be an 80mb clip encoded by the HD-PVR

ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/moive_clip/hd_pvr_clip/hcw_hd_pvr2_1080i_h264.ts

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stein said...

oh nevermind, i didnt realize that was 1080i not 720p.

I got mine in the mail today and if I get it set up before anyone else has a chance to upload a 720p clip I can do that.

yourdad said...

Yeah son!

Anonymous said...

What about Hauppauge Media Extender for SageTV? Will they be able to playback the files recorded through the HD-PVR?

Also, for anonymous - coax to toslink converters are cheap and work great. Check out partsexpress.com

Brent Evans said...

Anonymous,
If you're referring to the SageTV HD100 Extender then yes it can play back HD-PVR files just fine.
If you're referring to the Hauppauge MediaMVP, I would say probably not - unless you have a very powerful server PC since the file would have to be transcoded on-the-fly to watch any of these on the MVP.

Stein,
Looking forward to hearing from you on how your new HD-PVR is working out. Mine doesn't arrive until Monday.

stein said...

Unfortunately, my initial impressions aren't that good.

I originally tried to get it setup in GB-PVR but couldn't get it working correctly (and I find that program to be powerful but confusing to setup) so I installed the newest beta of SageTV figuring it would be easier to setup and that way i could check out the HD-PVR more quickly. It was pretty easy to set up.

Video quality is good. Comcast compresses their HD channels so the source isn't perfect, but switching between the component (passed through the HD-PVR) input from the STB and the HD-PVR h.264 feed through sageTV showed no noticable compression artifacts (though to be fair I dont have golden eyes). The picture was a little darker but I assume I could easily correct for that.

The problem that I have run into, and hopefully its something that I can fix, is that the video feed is real touchy. I am having a lot of issues with the HD-PVR just dropping the signal all together or just getting really choppy. The latter could possibly be a decoding issue for my computer, but I do have an HD3850 and the computer appears to be offloading the decoding onto it because CPU usage isn't as high as it usually is when it has to use software rendering. It also appears that just restarting the HD-PVR seems to fix the problem.

Anyways, I'm not totally convinced that these problems aren't a configuration issue rather than an HD-PVR issue but either way the system is too touchy at the moment for me to use it for all my television watching, which is what i have been trying to do.

stein said...

here is a .rar file with some 720p encoded fies

if the link doesnt work:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/f5d8iy

There are four files, one captured through the firewire to show you presumably full quality, and three captured through the HDPVR in the lowest setting, highest setting, and halfway in between all in constant bitrate.

stein said...

Sorry for putting so many comments in a row, but your blog seemed to be the point-blog for HD-PVR news.

I've had a chance to play around with the HD-PVR and investigate the flakiness of the transport stream.

I used the arcsoft video capture module for two reasons: it came with the HD-PVR and SageTV/GBPVR didn't, and it was easier to setup and use for testing purposes.

I did 8 trials, varied in time before the video&audio streams stopped between 1m15s and 4m15s. the median was just over 2m or so. I was able to sucessfully switch over to the firewire stream to make sure it wasnt the STB stopping the signal and by resetting the HD-PVR I could get it to work again.

also, the SPDIF audio input does not seem to work under the arcsoft software.

It could be a software problem in both cases, but it appears to me to be the fault of the HD-PVR and/or the drivers.

Unfortunately, I can't call hauppauge until monday...

Brent Evans said...

Stein,
Don't be sorry. We all appreciate the info. I'll be adding my take when my HD-PVR comes on Monday.

Anonymous said...

In the article above it mentions no way to restrict copying, there is something called CGMS, and a form of this exists over component output. It is not really known if/what boxes/providers enable this protection. Odds are the HD-PVR just passes the signal through(the CGMS is in the same part of the signal that captions are sent in, the VBI). It is probably up to the software to decide to honor CGMS(if present) or not.

stein said...

In case someone was wondering, I also used the videocapture program to record the video hoping it was just the video preview that was getting screwed up. However, the recorded .TS file stopped right at the same time that the video on the screen stopped displaying so it appears that the stream itself is failing as opposed to just a decoding filter failer.

Anonymous said...

stein-

I'm guessing the reason the digital audio didn't work over SPDIF is because the HD-PVR only supports L-PCM 2ch right now. You can change the Motorola to make it output PCM audio, it's in the "additional HDMI settings" in the display setup menu(hit MENU after turning off the box).

And using firewire capture as your reference, firewire outputs in native resolution, bit for bit. The resolution the box is set to output on(720P or 1080i) only applies to the HDMI/Component outputs. Since NBC is 1080i, your source sample clip is in 1920x1080 resolution. There is no scaling of resolution going on there. However if your box is set to 720p, then your box IS converting NBC's 1080i signal to 720P, outputing over component analog, and the HD-PVR is then digitizing a signal that has been downscaled to 720p. You definetly want to avoid this, try recording something on ABCHD or ESPNHD, both are 720P channels. Not sure how much degredation this causes, but you can definetly eliminate this downscaling.

Thanks for the sample clips though, appreciate a (very) early first look!

stein said...

I was afraid that NBC was a 1080i station but i was too lazy to look it up.

I'm about to go to bed but i will make a new set of recordings tomorrow morning on ABC tomorrow (i suspect ESPN wont work through the firewire).

I'll also check into settings to change it back to PCM, that sounds about right.

stein said...

Here is the new set of captures from ESPN this morning

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lxk8d6

Though this isn't perfect either since it was sportscenter and i dont know if the baseball games being shown were natively 720p. but at least its not my STB doing the scaling.

John P said...

stein,

Looks like FOX is doing NASCAR this afternoon. That would be a good test. FOX is also 720p native.

Thanks for the samples, they have help me verify that I will be able to play this stuff.

John

Brent Evans said...

I'll be posting some of my own samples on this blog "geek tonic" tomorrow once I get the HD-PVR set up. I plan to post files from ESPN, FoxSports, CNN, FoxNews and a few others for reference. I'll reference the quality and channel as well. No guarantees, on timing but I'll get them up as soon as I can.

Justin said...

It would be helpful to see some film based content as well at 1080i (variable bitrate, say 8.5mbps average; 13.5mbps peak).

stein said...

This may turn out to be totally off-base, but HD-PVR users may want to place the device in an area with good airflow. There is another early-adopter on the GB-PVR boards who is having the same issues as I am and we noticed that some of the behavior could be consistent with overheating: the time before the stream fails is longest if the HD-PVR has been off for a while, then shortens as you have it on and reset it a couple times while testing, letting it stay off for a bit increases the time you have before it fails again.

Qualitative data at best, but its something to pay attention to if you also start to experience these problems.

At anyrate, I have called Hauppauge so hopefully the process of tracking down the source of this issue has begun.

jakep_82 said...

Weren't their rumors about bad power supplies? I hope the first run of these aren't plagued with quality problems.

Robert said...

http://gallery.mac.com/r.mcnamara#100129&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=4

There's some unbox porn for you guys. I am waiting on Linux drivers and Myth support to use it, however.

Anonymous said...

I have a few questions:

1. Can this be used to save files which can be burned to a DVD and played back on a NON-Bluray player?

2. Can the files only be played on the TV when saved on the PVR itself?

3. Can files be transferred back onto the PVR from an external USB hard drive?

4. How are files transferred from the PVR to an external drive?

I don't really care about watching on the PC, what I mainly want is to:

Record shows->store them on a hard drive->burn them to DVDs(AVHCD is fine, but standard would be nice)->play shows recorded on the hard drive, PVR, and DVDs.

Anonymous said...

can u watch one channel while recording another? If not.....pretty annoying and might wait for next gen.

Anonymous said...

The HD PVR is not a PVR, it is a video capture device. It has not internal storage. All files are saved on the computer.

It has no ability to output video from the computer to the TV.

It only has one component analog input. It cannot accept two video source. So you cannot watch one channel while recording another (unless your cable/sat box has dual tuners and dual outputs and lets you watch two channels at the same time).

Anonymous said...

Ok had mine since monday, while the video is great from sources Dishnet PVR HD, PS3 and HD DVD the audio is a mess on it right now, no 5.1, either PCM 2.0 or analog RCA also just found out tonight the audio channels are swapped left is right and right is left, this seems to happening in the arcsoft ware, the pass through play correct, got emails into both hauppuage and arcsoft, have burned entire movies from dishnet onto a DVD+R DL looks just like original used bitrate setting 8500 constant, tested a new blu ray release sand pebbles at 6000 bitrate looked just as good as the original MPEG2 from the disc, while I am extremely happy with the video the audio problems are really starting to tick me off, ya I could just record from the RCA analog jacks and just switch the imputs around but I really want at least PCM 2.0 imput, I hope this is a simple driver issue fix. tested another blu ray from the PS3 tonight just for the heck of it, got my disney cars out and see how it would look is I cranked the card up to 13.5, I could not tell the difference between the original and this test disc, that on a 50in samsung plasma at 1920x1080i, at that bitrate at 118min. it was 12.8 gigs you can use varibale and have it peak out at 20.2 also.

Anonymous said...

I backed out on my order after the lengthy delay in shipping... But I still have a few questions, since I will reorder once they are fully in stock.

Has anyone either converted or found a way to directly play the HD-PVR's file back off a PS3? My original setup was going to be a fairly low end box to record from and then use my PS3 to browse the recordings and play them back without transcoding. This would save me a considerable amount on either an extender (plus the computer can firewire change channels and schedule recordings remotely) or having to do a major upgrade on my media comp so it could playback those files. Editing as needed would be done from my gaming machine which does have enough "umph" for such a project, then fed back to store on the media comp.

Hopefully I explained that well enough for you to understand what I'm at least thinking of using the HD-PVR for.

Anonymous said...

http://brentevans.blogspot.com/2008/05/answers-to-your-hauppauge-hd-pvr.html

Anonymous said...

Hope this helps somebody...

Received the HD-PVR last week and never got it to work. They had me ship it back and I received another one even before

the old one got to them (good work!).

What I learned while trying to get the first box to work...

...Setting the input format to composite while trying to use component required a reinstall of drivers to get anything to

be recognized. I think. I've had MUCH trouble with the arcsoft software trying to recognize the HD-PVR. Try avoiding

using the "wrong" input (I was playing around try to get the box to do "something").

...If the hd-pvr isn't being recognized no matter what, while you might need to reinstall drivers and software, it turns

out there is a file on the disk called hwclear.exe. (Tech support told me about it.) You can run it to force a clean

reinstall of the drivers and sometimes I found that was the only way to get things going.

With the new box:

Nothing was working. I was using the spdif/component. Finally I gave up and tried svideo/rca. After much other messing

with reinstalls of drivers etc. I did finally get a signal. I don't know if that somehow kick started things, but after

that I did get the component to work. I haven't tried spdif even so far and suspect from what I've read so far, it might

not work yet. It's really too bad that th hd-pvr doesn't have an RCA style digital audio in, btw.

MANY, MANY times I tried to get the arcsoft to recognize the hd-pvr and mostly it just wouldn't. YET, VLC player

recognized both the hd-pvr (though I never got it to play anything--anybody know if it can work for this?) and my internal

ati wonder capture card. VLC would play from the ATI. At the same time arcsoft would still recognize neither.

Sometimes arcsoft would recognize the ATI and play it. Sometimes it would recognize both and only play the ATI. Often it

would see neither (while VLC always saw them, at least).

Many times I would get a device conflict, yet nothing else was "running". It's odd that that would happen sometimes and

sometimes they both would be reconigzed, but finally I was able to get a consistent signal when I disabled (not remove) the

ATI Wonder card in the XP device manager.

I'm using a Scientific Atlanta 3250 which is connected to an hd tv AND to the hd-pvr. It seems they've configured the box

to throw copyright protection errors; I even got a HDMI/HMI warning out of the box (at least I saw it on my pc through the

hd-pvr). I found that if the TV was running and then turned off, there was no signal from the box. Don't understand the

workings, but watch out for that problem. Safest bet in testing is to not have anything else connected to the set top box.

Once I at least got things going, I can say the image was pretty good as was the recording. I can't say this was/is worth

it so far. I'd tell people to perhaps wait and see how things go. I'm waiting for the Beyond TV upgrade that will

hopefully work with this thing. Though Snapstream says they probably plan on supporting it, more importantly, there was a

card IN the hd-pvr box for 10% off Beyond TV (and a link to a page that has been set up for the hd-pvr, but doesn't say

anything about it so far).

If anybody has any advice, I'd sure like to know how to solve the conflict with the ATI All-in-Wonder card. I'd like to be

able to not have to disable it!

Also any insights into the issues with the Scientific Atlanta box.

Hopes this helps somebody!

Anonymous said...

As per HDCP requirements, Scientific Atlanta cable boxes stop transmitting the HDMI signal when HDCP is interrupted (ie, when the TV is turned off). Unfortunately, the accompanying error message appears on all outputs, not just HDMI.

Anonymous said...

Upgraded to Beyond TV 4.8.2.

Went through the setup wizard. There was no sound or image in setup (could that be because I'd left in the ATI-Wonder Card?). But went ahead anyhow.

Started up BTV and went to live TV. It said that it couldn't find a signal. That's what it said, but behind the warning was what looked to be a pretty good picture!. Hitting ok cut it off.

Tried a recording. Mostly gray and once in awhile a flicker of image....

Not so good, so far... Anybody else?

Anonymous said...

Simple setup/use here; bundled s/w (Arcsoft TME) pretty bad, editing downright lousy. Went through others, found ULead Video Studio 11 Plus works excellently, EXCEPT since the HD-PVR doesn't yet do Dolby audio, and ULead doesn't do linear, a big downer. Several other editors tested (AVCHD) much worse than ULead (can read the .ts files generated by Arcsoft directly). So right now, things are at a halt until Hauppauge gets the upgrade for Dolby out!

Anonymous said...

A decent non-reencoding editor (good for cutting out commercials) for the HD PVR TS files is h264ts_cutter:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/H264TS_Cutter

Saved segments must start on keyframes but with a GOP size of ~32 that means there's a keyframe every 1/2 second in 720p caps. Unfortunately, 1080i caps have a GOP size of ~65 so you only have 2 second granularity with 1080i files.

Erik said...

Just a quick note about my experience so far.. My PC died recently (same day i got the HD-PVR) but this week-end my cousin brought his laptop so we could try it.. (Core 2 duo 1.66Ghz, 3gb ram)

Installed the drivers and software (arcsoft, wintv) and it worked fine in both software for playback (onthefly). The Arcsoft playback in HD was actually pretty good.. maybe 1 second of delay VS the STB.

When we started capturing.. it worked for HD, but the software came to a halt. We saw the file on the harddrive, but then there was no way to stop the recording. We had to "End Task" for Arcsoft to regain access to the device etc..

Recording a normal SD channel though, it worked better. (makes sense) Press the "capture" button and it stops the software for a second or two and then playback (or capture) resumes and worked. At 9Mbps avg and 13.5 peak, with variable.. was about 50mb a minute for sd..

Was wodnering about commercials too.. figured maybe i could use the "pause" or stop on the remote but nothing.

Anonymous said...

Finally got my hd-pvr to work right. I burned an hour hd program to a regular dvd-r in the blu-ray format and it works great on my ps3. You can't tell the difference from the downloaded hd program and the dvd-r. I used the default encoding (9mbps) and didn't use the editing feature. I used the editing feature once and it increased my file so it wouldn't fit onto a dvd-r. After talking with Hauppauge support they said when you edit a .ts file, it used a higher compression to re-encode it. I can't believe how good this works. I want to try a 2 hour program using a dual layer dvd+r next. Very cool device.

J.Goodwin said...

I've had no significant problems here. Vista 64, new out of box with the 1.0B drivers.

Recording with the sliders maxed out and variable peak mode seems to create reasonably sized files with great quality. AAC is a pain in the ass, but I demux it from the .ts with tsMuxeR, convert to .wav in foobar2000, use BeLight to convert to AC3, and mux that back into m2ts with tsMuxeR, or go directly to AVCHD, which plays back fine on my PS3.

There's probably a more direct way to do this, but it works for me. I'm not as happy about 1080i as 720p in general, filesize and quality wise. I may not have been giving enough bits in the right places to my 1080i recordings, since I was using something like 6mbps or 7.6mbps in non-variable or variable-average modes. I'm going to give it another shot with the sliders maxed in peak variable mode. So far, that's my preference.

J.Goodwin said...

Just a quickie, I would definitely recommend pushing both sliders to the max and using Peak Variable mode for recordings, particularly movies or TV shows. Sports are more difficult (I'm talking soccer here). Getting two hours of soccer onto a dual layer disc by just straight up using peak mode isn't going to work, you're going to have to mess with the sliders and turn things down a bit.

I still think Peak Variable gives better results than Average Variable though.

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